April 29th, 2006Never compare me to local Chinese girls
Ever since my childhood, my mother keeps comparing me to her friends’ children who are around my age. It seems to me that it is some kind of unspoken competition between parents. They want their children to be ‘better’ than other people’s children and they aren’t satisfied with their own children’s achievements. With time, I became very touchy when it comes to being compared to others.
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The other day, out of the blue, a friend of mine (Shanghainese guy) told me that he thinks that my skin is darker than the average Chinese girl. My other friends who were present at that time were as surprised as me to hear the guy say all that. My gal friends started saying that I don’t have dark skin but the Shanghainese guy persisted in saying that my skin is dark compared to Chinese girls. I told him that I like tanning and that my skin color has always been like this. I was hoping that he’d stop talking about that because there was no point in telling me all that. Still, he wouldn’t stop and even started comparing my shoulders (I was wearing an off-the-shoulder top) to my friend’s (also a Mauritian), saying that my skin is darker than my friend’s. I’ve never seen that Mauritian friend wear off-the-shoulder tops so I knew that her shoulders wouldn’t be tanned. Still, her face wasn’t as pale as her shoulders but for some unknown reason, the guy was focusing on our shoulders. After a few more minutes where he kept saying that I have dark skin, I got really angry. Being told “你的皮肤很黑” many times isn’t pleasant at all. I bit back a retort and got up to leave my friend’s room. I didn’t want to lose my temper there. The guy, finally realizing that he has offended me, pulled my arm, trying to stop me from leaving but I wrenched out of his grasp. I don’t hold grudges against people but I need a few more days to calm down. His comments really irked me. The way he was talking was like he thinks that I shouldn’t have ‘dark’ skin (maybe because of my Chinese background? ) and that he thinks that fair skin looks better. He didn’t say that directly but I’m not stupid, I got the point. Who is he to tell me things about my skin? Right now, my skin isn’t even as tanned as it usually is in Mauritius and I’m being called ‘dark’. I can just imagine what he would say if he saw photos of me taken in Mauritius after a day at the beach.
Unlike most Chinese girls here, I don’t have an obsession with fair skin. The amount of skin whitening products in China is really amazing and even scary too. I was born and grew up in Mauritius,a sunny island. Back in Mauritius, I don’t use sunblock, I don’t walk around with an umbrella and I don’t wear clothes which cover every inch of my skin. It’s no wonder that I don’t have the fair skin that most Chinese girls here have. In fact, the word fair isn’t the best word to describe what type of skin they want. If you see the skin ads in China, you realize that the Chinese people are aiming for white skin. Once, my friends were watching TV and we saw an ad about a skin whitening product. The model’s face was so white that we all said that she looked scary and artificial. In China, those with white skin tend to be those people who are wealthy or at least have enough money to take good care of their skin and buy whitening products. The Chinese people with darker skin are usually those who work in the fields,i.e, people who don’t have the time and money to take good care of their skin because they are busy working hard. I know that some Chinese people with fair skin look down on those Chinese people with dark skin. Did they even stop to think about the fact that those people they are looking down upon are those who are providing them with the rice, fruits and vegetables that they eat?
Even if I have 100% Chinese blood in me, I wasn’t born in China. I didn’t grow up here. In other words, here in Shanghai, I am a foreigner. Don’t treat me like a local Chinese girl. Don’t expect me to behave like one. I love the sun, I love beaches, I love tanning. White skin just doesn’t suit me. I look sickly if I’m too pale. Moreover, my skin color shouldn’t even matter to my true friends.




well its the craze over here too .. being fair is a must for most gurls.
i guess ur Shanghainese fren should have just kept quiet and should apologise to ya eh
to me i dun mind skin color
Quote?shall say he’s annoying..i hate that kinda ppl, wouldn’t stop saying the same thing..”hey hey, i get the point, i know i m dark but do u have to say it 10000times?”
anyway, that’s ok….friends accept u for who u r..
:flowers: hugssss
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I know what you mean. Even back in Mauritius we used to say that the Chinese women were soooo white compared to us.
And they understand it’s normal to be so in a tropical island.
Quote?It’s true that the “fair is beautiful” thinking is prevalent in China (and Japan to a lesser extent), but although my Chinese friends did have this mentality, they never said anything bad to suntanned people.
For me, it’s usually the other way round. When people ask me where I am from, I say “Africa”, and they go “But you are not black! That’s not possible. You are lying to me. Are you Japanese/Korean?”
well that sounds very annoying!!
yeah, state ur opinion once, then SHUT UP. tsk. sometimes guys really need to know when to shut it
& then to compare u first 2 local girls, then directly to your friend…so ‘bed dan’!!
i think it really stems from a long time ago. pale skin indicates that ur family is wealthy & u don’t have to work outside in the harsh sun.
that’s obviously pointless now.
i have to admit i am one of the girls who don’t like tans but i don’t excessively avoid the sun, & in fact, paradoxically enjoy being out on a warm sunny day! but some asians really are obsessive about it
i can’tbelieve how many whitening products are out there! why would u want to be so white for?! i don’t want to be white-white, i just like being fair skinned.
anyway, don’t listen to him aline. when i met u, the last thing i was thinking was that u were ‘dark’! not at all!! & those photos are obviously proof of that. “dark”? PFFFTTTTTTTTTTT.
Quote?Ugh that’s so
*sigh* What a jerk bitching about your skin tone. My mom is 100% Moluccan as my father. But he’s like dark and my mom has a very fair complexion. She used to be teased because she was so ‘white’. Come to think of it, my father has two sisters who also have a very fair complexion.
And my brother, sister and I have a lighter skin tone than an avarage Moluccan person. Ughh just blame it on the gene pool, it’s in the DNA! Hehe, well I was born and raised in The Netherlands. So I guess everybody thinks my skin is dark or well I love to say brown.
But living in a country that really focuses on fair complexions must be hard. Don’t let it get to you. I believe a tan shows you’re healthy
And everybody must be jealous you actually tan beautifully. Like some people in The Netherlands turn red after sitting in the sun, but one of my friends gets this strange yellow/brownish/golden sorta tan. And he’s like 100% Dutch, so he’s supposed to turn red
ugh it confuses me.
Anyway you’re right, skin color (or even race, religion, sexuality, etc.,.) shouldn’t matter if you’re friends. It what’s on the inside your heart that truly counts!
Quote?Gee, I would have been pretty pissed off too if I were you!!!!!!
And besides, you may have 100% chinese blood but you’re right: you’re not chinese-born, you’re mauritian -
And you’re not even DARK!!!!GEEEEEEEEEEZ - you just look freaking normal - at least to me:))))))))- I find it absurd to find that the ‘fair is better’ mentality exists in China - i mean, with all the ‘asian pride’ talk I hear here, I almost believed that they’d be proud of having a tan to show off their ‘asian-ness’:P and not be ‘white’. Lol.
I remember back in MU, I’d always want a tan coz sinon nu coma dire ‘poule bouilli’. I guess it’s just a clash of cultures here - mauritian v/s chinese, or in other words: Occident versus l’orient coz i noticed that occidental cultures tend to prefer dark skin and oriental cultures paler skin (by oriental, I mean indians, arabs, chinese etc..:P)
Okay, jokes aside, nevermind those ppl: those types of ppl are just n-a-r-r-o-w m-i-n-d-e-d.
Pfttt
Quote?Glad that I am not the type who cares about skin colour. But if I were, I would definitely get hurt by that guy’s comment. Of course I would also get annoyed because he kept repeating his statement! Hey if your skin is ‘dark’ then mine is what??? BBQED!! hahaha. I know quite many chinese gurls in Singapore who want dark tanned colour and they would constantly go get a tan at the beach!
Quote?hi, Aline! I couldn’t help but comment.. I understand how you feel being compared with others..
like me I am half filipina and half american, but somehow I was always compared to other pure filipinas who have lil tiny body frames unlike me I got my body frame from my dad’s side, it really hurts sometimes and can be very annoying, too coz first of all they don’t know how it feels since they’re not in our situation. I have white skin, too so usually I love to tan myself and I don’t use umbrellas either. and you can say that again, because of all those skin whitening lotions *ugh* sometimes a face can look a lil bit artificial looking, some of my neighbors back in the Philippines before used a lot of whitening products and I don’t know it does really work for them but I wouldn’t really care for it though.
can I say you are very pretty? I saw your site through Becka of simplycute.us have a wonderful day and take care!!
Quote?Strange… I thought you were Irish.
Quote?What is it with the chinese and fair skin? I’m chinese too, but like you, I’m also quite tanned. I also have friends who make comments like “Ni hen hei.” and that pisses the hell out of me. Sometimes they make fun and say that I’m malay or indian or say that they can hardly see me in the dark. It’s ridiculous, really. I was fine with the comments at the beginning, but as they kept being repeated over and over again, I got tired. And you’re not even dark! You should see me, I’m darker. That guy is BLIND.
Quote?Geez Aline, your friend is a freak or what? What’s his prob? Maybe he’s jealous he’s not as tanned as you
Here, they ask me why I can’t speak Chinese since I look Chinese! Geezz, what the fish! Does it mean that every single Chinese-looking girl must know how to speak Chinese?! And that’s when they look down on those who can’t speak Chinese. -__- Whattt the Fissshhhh…
The saddest thing in your story is that the ‘wealthy’ girls who’re trying desperately to keep a fair skin are becoming the SLAVES of this artificial world, they’re trying so hard to be like the West. And those ‘working class people’ are simply moving on with their life & accepting their fate. Tut tut, How pathetic…
Quote?最近很忙,好久没来了
那个人是不是脑子有问题,或者没什么话好说?奇怪,我想不通他为什么会找这个话题:roll:
在中国,皮肤黑白好像并不象征着地位高低,或者是我不知道。皮肤黑是天生的,白也是天生的,没什么大不了的。现在虽然有很多人在美白,但也有很多人故意晒成古铜色呢。不要太在意了,那个人可能也没那个意思。
Quote?That’s annoying. Chinese people narrowly differentiate people by their skin colour and race.
Personally I prefer (the photos of) you with darker skin. The darker the berry the sweeter the juice baby…
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I am such a “white” girl I could not tan if I wanted too. I have hear that the fair skin is very popular in China. Wow. Here in the USA it’s all about the tan! I just hope for not skin cancer. =P I have gotten burned so many times in life. Your beautiful no matter what sweetie. I like you pale and tan. ;-) *hugs*
Quote?i dont think skin color shld be an issue for discussion at all. but hey, i like my ladies honey roasted, nice and toasty, they look healthier and more sporty that way. either way, its all good to me when my main focus in a lady is obviously “skin” deep. take care aline, you’ve been missed by MEEE!
ps: you’re looking gorgeous every time i check back on ya!
Quote?ah…emmm…I have to say you look much more attractive with a tanned skin. It looks just natural.
I can’t help but quote Martin Luthur King, “…will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character…”
That guy, I’d say he’s a racist.
Quote?oh poor aline. hope you’ve calmed down after that incident. don’t think that guy said all that to offend you, he just realised it too late. you know how some people are. well, it’s sorta in our ‘chinese’ culture for our parents to compare ‘us’ to others, but i guess we shouldn’t worry about it too much. i’d usually just shrug it off. anyway, whether you’re tanned, fair or pale.. i like the way you are.. besides, underneath it all we’re all the same. hope you’re feeling better, hun
Quote?Aline,
Ouch, im feelin u. That guy was too over. Just didnt get it huh? Dun think abt it so much already, if he apologises sincerely then just accept it lorr..
im sunburnt again..and im awfully dark now. *high five*
Quote?Hmmmm.. in Singapore, I don’t think we are that crazy over fair skins. There are loads of people here who are quite tan. I was quite tan too because I swim and I love being in the sun, don’t be bothered by what other people say because you are who you are.
Quote?Yes. Indeed. The way some people talk about you is as if what you currently are is ‘wrong’. Especially the condescending tone that some of them use. Appalling.
What matters most that you are you. (: And of course, I appreciate you for who you are! Fair skin or dark skin doesn’t make you as a person, rather, what matters most is the image you portray and your character/personality!
And oh, I prefer darker skin too, even though I am also Chinese.
Quote?I just think that everyone has his/her own skin color in which they look best in. And I guess it also depends on the seasons. Tanned skin in winter looks creepy, hehe.
Quote?I think people’s skin would improve if they stopped eating such oily food. Expensive skin products are a waste of money. Just use regular moisturizer and eat healthy foods.
Quote?Skin color should not matter at ALL. What’s the deal? That boy was being rude if he was making it seem like you’re inferior because your skin tone is darker. I mean, who on earth cares whether anyone’s skin is light or dark or any shade in between? If he does, he’s making a big deal about nothing!
Gah! Don’t let him get to you - he’s just being a loser.
Quote?Hi Aline.
Let me say one thing, white chinese girls are not so good looking, I’m am even scared when I see the “too white” girls :).
In any ways, I like your look, you are very good looking and you are a very nice person.
Do not bother about this stupid guy! He is only jealous!!!!
Regards
Quote?i was shocked to see all those skin whitening products when i was in Shanghai. so i guess the chinese society prefers whiter and paler skin nowadays. anyways, everyone here in the US loves tanning and whenever i see an Asian person sheiding the sun with an umbrella i know she’s from China.
Quote?Come to the Netherlands!
It’s like the other world: everyone here would like to have a dark skin, instead of (which is common) a white skin (close too, not white). I can’t count the number of products to brown your skin here… and sometimes it bothers me as much as you do.
Quote?time to update my dear!
Quote?yes it happens to me all the time too… Chinese people always ask me if I’m Japanese or Korean once they realize that I’m not Chinese.
Quote?That guy friend of mine knows me since months. He knows that my parents are from China so I guess that’s why he told me that ‘I’m dark’. He was comparing me (overseas Chinese) to a local Chinese girl.
yes indeed, it’s the inside which counts.
Quote?yesssssssssssssssss .
Quote?Indeed in China, the people who live in the city tend to look down on the farmers who can easily be recognized by their darker and coarser skin. This kind of prejudice has been around for many years, I doubt it has anything to do with modern racism. Every country on earth, no matter how homogeneous it is, has its own unique kinds of discrimination, it could be based on anything imaginable.
Quote?Hmmm I am sure that guy didn’t mean to sound critical and he didn’t expect your reactin either, but he was being rude for sure. I can see that he regretted immediately when he saw your reaction, but it seems too late… you were offended:cry: Hey, is it possible that it is his way to bring up some other topics–maybe he wanted to buy you some skin whitening product so he just found an excuse, hehehe, I don’t know. Well, form your photos, I do really not think that your skin is that dark at all! The guy would know what ‘dark’ was if he saw me, hehe
Quote?I spent my whole childhood in my grandparents’ home and I played outdoors with kids there nearly everyday during those 6 years (Wow, sounds cool, isn’t it?) and after I came back home, I was sent to a sports school five years later, and I became a basketball player, and I spent hours outside practising basketball and things like that. I seldom wear make-up or skin whitening stuff unless I had to.(I once was a amature model) I like my skin color and people say it is healthy! I guess that guy wouldn’t say that to me anyhow. He doesn’t understand ‘health’, it seems. I like the sun too, and like you, I don’t take umbrellas in summer.
Also, one thing that I cannot agree with you more is that parents tend to compare their kids with others’. To me, my dad is a typical dad in this sence. He is never ever satisfied with me whatever I do. He loves his kids in a strange way that I can hardly figure out, not to mention ‘accept’. I don’t like to be compared either. Well, sometimes, I think maybe us kids really should think from our parents’ perspective. They hope us to do better than others’ kids maybe ’cause they know the fierce competetion in the job market and therefore, they want us to win and fear that we are left behind by others’ kids. They worry about our future or… oh, who knows! anyway, I seem to understand but it is still hard to accept. My dad tends to push me a little bit too hard, as if no matter what I do, I can never live up to his expect.
Oh, I said too much! do you know who I am? I am a Chinese girl who loves English a lot. I live in Shenyang, Liaoning province. I think I am a little older than you but your life there in Shanghai is more colourful than mine. Anyway, forgive that guy, for health’s sake, hehehe
Non illigitamus carborundum
I’ve learned this phrase far too late
(google it)
Quote?Aline,
Quote?I tend to think that for some young men, they do not think before they open their mouths. Seriously though, I think he saw a pretty girl and was trying to make conversation. Most guys (esp. Shanghainese) tend to have no tact whatsoever.
We were out with friends and one of them brought along an aquaintance who was from Shanghai. I am a bit overweight and its quite obvious to everyone, but this new person, who I wasn’t even introduced to, opens up and asks me, “It looks like American food gets you fat really easily.” I was dumbfounded. I just said, ” the way I eat, it would”. And didn’t speak to him for the rest of the dinner.
Either it is an inherent condition of Shanghainese mannerisms to be so directly tactless or it is simply that mainland chinese have not been taught manners ( at least European or American standards of politeness.
Hello
Chinese are very proud to have a very pale skin, they are the umbrella women. Also my x-partner Chris Lee is from Mauritius. add me to your msn so we can chat and I can do an intro. He is a D.J. in Shanghai. ddsclub@hotmail.com
Luke Chou
Quote?http://www.ddsclub.com
http://www.shanghaiguide.com
Luke, I don’t know how I never noticed your comment before!
Quote?I’ve been re-reading this entry and comments today. Thanks to everyone for your comments.
Quote?hehe, i don’t think people care much about the skin in China, actually it depends on. Just be yourself and enjoy yourself. But deep in my heart, i like those pale chinese girl, but it doesn’t matter to affect me to like those tanned skin friends, they are all my friends anyway. So don’t take it so seriously.
Quote?I was borned with lighter color, never tried to whiten or darken my myself on purpose. Guess I’m just comfortable with myself like how ur. There is no prob with u urself.
Quote?As to that guy…:laughing: typical “小男人” “馊泡饭”(if u know what i mean) lol, He should really learn how to act like a MALE of his age rather than an 80-year-old lady.